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Anonymous writes "Since its earliest days of blood thirsty conquest by rebels and murders, America has stood for hypocrisy.Equal rights, so long as you were white.Equal opportunity, so long as you were male.Share of the wealth, so long as you are one of the rich.A melting pot to all races, so long as its American.Freedom of speech, so long as its whispered.Justice for those who can afford it.Liberty to those who can enforce it.America grew to a world power by being the biggest bully on the hill. Its propaganda machine, the largest in history.Its culture, the most backward of all compared to the rest of the world.Its values on wealth and its ignorance of the world around it have made the USA one of the most hated societies in the world.Yet, it has been able to do one thing better then anyone else, obfuscate its military control over the public.Most countries that Americans have come to hate, have done so because those countries portray their forces in plain sight for everyone to see.Whereas the USA, has a massive society that thinks it is free from such control.Many Americans still think they live in a democracy, one that hasn't existed since the Regan era when F.E.M.A. was given presidential power to declare martial law whenever they deemed needed.

A very broad range of powers were granted with virtually no restrictions.Further, as a country that values wealth and material possessions above all else, capitalism reigns.Woes be to the American public.For they are sheep.Innocent in their ignorance of the world around them.Blind to the hatred that surrounds them.Lulled into a false sense of security by the government that protects them.And sadly, when they do taste the reality of the world, one can only pity them to see such shock and amazement on their faces.Sadly, yet long over due, Americans are realizing, just how out of touch they really are with their surrounding.This change, is about to get much much worse in the days, months and years to come.On the heels of plans for new powers to patrol people's Web use, the U.S. government is again turning to technology to monitor suspicious activity in the name of fighting terrorism.The government has unveiled more details of its Terrorist Information and Prevention System (TIPS), a plan to recruit volunteers across the country who will keep tabs on dubious or suspicious behavior.Behavior that has no defined action.Much like the German SS, the US has recruited its own to police itself.Citizens reporting anything suspecious to its goverment,in fear that if they don't they themself will be considerd suspecious.The program will involve the millions of American workers who, in the daily course of their work, are in a unique position to see potentially unusual or suspicious activity in public places, according to the TIPS Web site.Such workers also could include letter carriers, meter readers and others who would have access to private homes.Volunteers would report the activity to law enforcement via the Internet or by telephone. The government also has set up a site where people can offer their services to Citizen Corps, a White House-backed community-based volunteer network that includes the TIPS program.The American Civil Liberties Union, one of several critics of the plan, fears the proposal will encourage racial profiling and vigilantism, possibly leading to searches of private homes without a warrant.The administration apparently wants to implement a program that will turn local cable or gas or electrical technicians into government-sanctioned Peeping Toms, Rachel King, an ACLU legislative counsel, said in a statement.In addition, the database aspect of the plan has raised concerns among security experts who worry people could break in and learn the identities of informants.The TIPS Web site says information received will be entered into the national database and referred electronically to a point of contact in each state as appropriate.On Tuesday, the Department of Justice issued a statement responding to the barrage of criticism about the plan, saying it has been mischaracterized as an army of citizen spies.Barbara Comstock, director of public affairs for the department, said TIPS is simply a reporting system based on other programs in which people are encouraged to give details of suspicious activity in the course of doing their jobs.None of the Operation TIPS materials published on the Web or elsewhere have made reference to entry or access to the homes of individuals; nor has it ever been the intention of the Department of Justice, or any other agency, to set up such a program, Comstock said in the statement.The announcement of TIPS' details comes on top of several other government initiatives that have alarmed some members of the Web community. Six weeks after Sept. 11, Congress passed the U.S. Patriot Act, portions of which gave law enforcement greatly expanded powers to snoop on Internet communications.In May, Justice Department and FBI officials announced new guidelines that would allow agents to dig for information on Web sites and publicly available databases, even if they're not conducting a specific investigation. The move raised concerns that the government would spy on specific ethnic and activist groups without reason because it would relax guidelines set in the 1970s that discouraged compiling dossiers on people based on their religious or political activities.This week, Congress passed a bill that would carry a life sentence for some computer break-ins, a plan some have painted as an overzealous attempt to rein in hackers.This new bill and plans for control are obviously biased.Where does it stop?Computerized homes are part of the internet.Many business today are part of the internet.Some cars are part of the internet.Almost all financial systems are part of the internet.Goverment records, public, news and local criminal information are often posted on the internet for public viewing.Goverment backed organizations that handle massive public and supposed private data, such as Yahoo, have already been violating laws in abundance, without so much as a glance from the goverment.As such, while it may look different on the surface, the USA has become everything it publicly fears and proclaims to hate.If the American people don't wake up soon and take control over those whom it charges to protect it self, it will become but a brief page in history.Of course, given its brief history, one must ask, would that really be such a bad thing?"
Posted on Friday, 19 July 2002 @ 08:17:33 EDT by Paul
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Re: The USA, a brighter polished lemon. (Score: 0)
by Anonymous  on Friday, 19 July 2002 @ 11:56:57 EDT
To quote Voltaire:I disagree with what you say- but I will defend to the death your right to say it.That to me is the essence of living in the USA- which, while defiantly maintaining my identity as a Scotsman, I have done for more than 20 years.Only recently have I found myself in the states.I, for my company, am now traveling abroad in the field of computer repair.Having spent the majority of my life in Scotland, I have to admit, the USA is a rather strange place to be.Of course, the defiance in question is largely focused against the English, who for 300+ years have been telling my people that yes, we're all one country and we all want the same things... after all, we have more votes than you do in Parliament.The bottom line is that the United States is indeed everything mentioned, while at the same time the greatest bastion of freedom and equality in the civilized world (witness the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and Brown vs. Board of Education) and the home of some of the most egregious attempts to abridge personal liberty (do the names Joseph McCarthy or J.Edgar Hoover ring a bell with anyone?). But both of these extremes are contained in the principles on which this country was founded. Liberty and profit for all.Opps, silly me, the Yanks did finally change that line, didn't they ;)For 300 years, the colonies and later thecountry founded on the American continent have oscillated between isolationist self-protection and a role in world affairs which, no matter how much its exponents claimed was forced upon them, has been enjoyed as much as it has been bemoaned.What is distressing and problematical in the present political climate is the equivocation of patriotism (love of one's country) and anti-terrorism(terrorists being defined, under the present administration, as anyone G.W. Bush doesn't like)And this gets to the core of what [Anonymous] was writing about in the first place. It is one thing to protect one's country fromattack. It is another to set up a system of informers who are paid to provide information about what their neighbors, friends or enemies might beup to. As the practice established in Republican Rome under the Dictator Sulla proved some 2000 years ago, all that this fosters is informing- theframing of innocent people by those eager to gain reward.I am not by any means suggesting that the events of September 11, 2001 require that we roll over and surrender to terroristic factions from variousEastern lands. Nor am I suggesting that the United States and its European partners should not fight legitimate wars against terroristic establishments(whether governmental or otherwise). What I am saying is that the abrogationof personal liberty in the name of combating terrorism is not justifiable.The terrorists who committed the awful acts of September 11 were able to do so because of the freedoms guaranteed not only to citizens but merely to residents of this country. That's a price we're all paying now- but it's not one that's worth reducing because they were able to do so.If the promise of the Declaration of Independence: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienablerights; and that among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is to hold true, then the most important task which all of usface is that of conducting our daily lives not as if these events had not happened, nor as if they were irrelevant, but with as much meaning andpurpose as they would have in either case. We do not need to become a nation of informers to strengthen our resistance to terrorism- we need merely emulate the subjects of Tennyson's Ulysses:...Though much is taken, much abides, and thoughWe are not now that strength which in old daysMoved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are-One equal temper of heroic hearts,Made weak by time and fate, but strong in willTo strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.While I think [Anonymous] might have made an extremest statement, I can not fault him, nor can I deny the truth in what was said.Scotty, the

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Re: The USA, a brighter polished lemon. (Score: 1)
by jmn1207  on Friday, 19 July 2002 @ 16:32:52 EDT
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I'm very concerned about the direction our liberty is going. This is very serious.As I have been fortunate to travel much of the world and speak directly to many different people, I question the ignorant sheep description of US citizens in general. The information and truth can easily be found by the average American. I believe many more Americans than are given credit in this article are very aware of their surroundings and exactly how we are looked upon by other cultures around the world.The problem is a 2-way street. There are lots of places all over the planet that are fed misinformation on a much grander scale than within our own government and media, with absolutely no way to get an objectionable or even an opposite view presented to them. It's also no wonder that these types of places are the ones the seem to harbor the greatest fear and hatred toward us.