U.S. Supreme Court Preserves 'God' in Pledge

AplusWebMaster · Sergeant Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: USA

FYI...

- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...legiance_7
40 minutes ago
"The Supreme Court at least temporarily preserved the phrase "one nation, under God," in the Pledge of Allegiance, ruling Monday that a California atheist could not challenge the patriotic oath while sidestepping the broader question of separation of church and state. The decision leaves untouched the practice in which millions of schoolchildren around the country begin the day by reciting the pledge.
The court said the atheist could not sue to ban the pledge from his daughter's school and others because he did not have legal authority to speak for her. The father, Michael Newdow, is in a protracted custody fight with the girl's mother. He does not have sufficient custody of the child to qualify as her legal representative, eight members of the court said. Justice Antonin Scalia did not participate in the case...Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist agreed with the outcome of the case, but still wrote separately to say that the Pledge as recited by schoolchildren does not violate the Constitution. Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Clarence Thomas agreed with him. The high court's lengthy opinion overturns a ruling two years ago that the teacher-led pledge was unconstitutional in public schools..."

AplusWebMaster · Sergeant Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: USA

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s...playground

"...You're attempting to take the Pledge of Allegiance away from all the students at your daughter's school, and all students everywhere. And it says here that your wife -- I mean, the mother of your child -- is in favor of her little girl reciting the full pledge, and of course that California law gives her, not the absent-from-the-house father, standing in a court trial. Are you trying to get that law changed too? And while you're at it, Newdow, you intend to do something about the Hippocratic oath?"

"What about the Hippocratic oath?"

"The provision in it that says you mustn't play God."

"Who says I was trying to play God?"

"I say it. You impregnate a woman who gives birth to the child, you refuse to marry her or live with her, you protest the policies of the school the girl goes to, and you want to impose your values on the school. So that all the little boys in that school will grow up like you, a doctor who violates his Hippocratic oath, and refuses to live up to the responsibilities of a father? I call that playing God."

chickengirl · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject:

Nice to meet you AplusWebMaster...and thanks for the links! It would seem that Mr. Newdow has brought a little more attention to himself, then he bargained for...he was so busy pointing that finger... Wink

ekrubtap · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:54 am Post subject:

Nice quote from Bill Buckley, but shouldn't you also have quoted Pat Robertson, Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Falwell, Ann Coulter, Oral Roberts, Newt Gingritch, Billy Graham, Jimmy Swaggart, and Tammy-Faye Baker?
It is also a good example of yellow (read "trash") journalism. It is presented as a conversation with Mr. Newdow, whereas, in reality, it is a work of fiction, and clumsy at that. It's intent is to impugn Mr. Newdow's character by refering to another percieved fault in said character, That of "refusing" to marry or live with, the mother. I suspect, in the best tradition of yellow journalism, that this conclusion was reached with no reference to whatever the realities of the situation might be.

AplusWebMaster · Sergeant Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: USA

Why'd the atheist get into this thread? Rolling Eyes

ekrubtap · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:57 pm Post subject:

Why not?


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