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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: mailwasher 4.1 slow
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I don't have the latest Pentium 4 processor, but I upgraded from version 3.3 . It ran smoothly and it was great. 4.1 is now slow and choppy kind of thing.
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 12:41 am    Post subject:
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Close mailwasher and start task manager, then restart mailwasher and tell us how long it takes to start and how much CPU it is using along with your CPU type and speed.

Mine doesn't start quickly, not sure how much of a problem it is and how much is due to the large training files and/or two weeks of the message logging. On my old Xeon 450 mhz system it is taking about 8 seconds to come up to where it starts mail checking with between 75 and 100 percent CPU use.

Mail checking takes about a second per message to complete (horrible connection with slow ping times) downloading and doing the FA and spamcop tests. CPU ise is around 50 percent during this time.
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:25 am    Post subject: Mailwasher 4.1 Slow
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I started with Mailwasher Pro 4.0 and it was completely satisfactory. Upgraded to 4.1, not happy. When launching, a little dialogue box pops up and says it's "rebuilding." And checking the mail takes longer. For instance, one of the emails in the preview pane was displayed as "normal view," showing "first 2129 lines." I checked the settings, and it's set to display first 20 lines.

I saved the setup and registration key for the 4.0 version. Can I uninstall 4.1 and reinstall 4.0 without messing up Firetrust's records or whatever?
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject:
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Going back versions can be tricky since the file formats for some of the tools change.

It sounds like you may have an error in the Learning data files all called "Training???" Before going backwards why don't you exit mailwasher completely, delete the three of them and reinstall 4.1 over the existing install and see if that fixes the problem?

I think some of these problems can be caused by interactions with virus checking programs, did you have yours turned on during the upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1?

If you do go backwards you might want to clean out the data directory and save your blacklist.txt file and filters.txt file elsewhere just to be safe.
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject:
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I think some of these problems can be caused by interactions with virus checking programs, did you have yours turned on during the upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1?

Thanks for the information. You are quite right, I forgot to turn off antivirus program during the upgrade.
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Hopefully now that MW has moved to encrypted files for some of the data it should be less of a problem.

Not much encryption, letters rotated 13 numbers rotated 5, with a bit of work you can almost read it...
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject:
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Not much encryption, letters rotated 13 numbers rotated 5, with a bit of work you can almost read it...

You're a better man than me! I'd be bug-eyed and would fry remaining brain cells if having to mentally decrypt this stuff. Rolling Eyes

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Not to worry, we were promised a decrypt utility "real soon" there must be one available for the support folks but it probably needs prettied up before we get a shot at it...
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject: slow
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Stan, thanks for taking the time regarding my query above. For the sake of accuracy here, it turns out I have Mailwasher Pro 3.2, not 4.0. I reinstalled, and it's working fine. I'll read posts in the forum (and remember to close antivirus program) before trying upgrade again.
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Not to worry, we were promised a decrypt utility "real soon" there must be one available for the support folks but it probably needs prettied up before we get a shot at it...


Is it really needed ? I haven't received a single request for this and if it's not needed I'd rather not spend developers time on it, the initial beta version of it was given to beta testers (as it was a beta tester who requested this)

But I think it's pretty much a MailWasher geek tool not required outside of the beta circle.
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Perhaps. But as part of the stats, it seems to me that the number of msgs in the Learning archives and in the trash would be useful info for both tracking performance and as possible debugging clues. Skipping the decrypt and adding the analysis numbers would do it for me.
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I didn't think of it as a big time burner of a project, I was expecting a filter type program that would when run read the encrypted files and spit out unencrypted ones. Shouldn't take much time for something like that.

I'll look at writing my own next time I need it, you can drop my request for it too.
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I'll look at writing my own next time I need it, you can drop my request for it too.


but there already is one in the beta forum stan ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject:
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Is it really needed ? ... But I think it's pretty much a MailWasher geek tool not required outside of the beta circle.

I think as time goes on and some users get knowledgeable or sophisticated in the tweaking of Bayesian filters, a browser of what is in the training files - along with a feature to delete a selected email from the training might be useful.

You might even consider a 'transfer to opposite training' feature if one inadvertantly added an email to the wrong training.

Of course, the upcoming refinements to the Bayesian implementation might make such a brower inappropriate and/or bootless.
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Of course, the upcoming refinements to the Bayesian implementation might make such a brower inappropriate and/or bootless.


That's my thought too. We''ll see once the new implementation has been integrated.
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