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Jamming
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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So their contract was for training, security, canine services, aviation support services, range construction and steel target equipment. For the new Iraqi Security Forces and Police Forces. BTW thanks for the link I sent my check to their Memorial Fund.
Which International Law? Iraq was authorized by the UN after we removed from Kuwait in 1991. They signed an "armistice" to abide by the Security Council provisions to disarm and open their country for inspections, we gave them twelve years to comply. We had all the authority we needed. We just enforced the violation of the treaty that they signed with us and the UN. We can't help it if the rest of you are "Spanish". |
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seasalt
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Location: Afghanistan
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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TMOV
You wrote, " We can't help it if the rest of you are "Spanish".
You're a big man, hiding behind your pc and calling myself & my country cowards.
Right now I would love to have five minutes with you just to see if your as tough as you talk. But you're not worth wasting my time on. Besides, your idea of cowardice as descibed below is a compliment.
"COWARDICE, n. A charge often levelled by all-American types against those who stand up for their beliefs by refusing to fight in wars they find unconscionable, and who willingly go to prison or into exile in order to avoid violating their own consciences. These 'cowards' are to be contrasted with red-blooded, 'patriotic' youths who literally bend over, grab their ankles, submit to the government, fight in wars they do not understand (or disapprove of), and blindly obey orders to maim and to kill simply because they are ordered to do so-all to the howling approval of the all-American mob. This type of behavior is commonly termed 'courageous.'" : Chaz Bufe |
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Jamming
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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No, your not willing to fight at all. You think that laws will protect you and the police will prevent crime. That's your country's problem too, you feel that you are safe if you don't stand out. We know that it doesn't matter, the criminal or terrorist will come at you no matter the reason. The problem is you won't even stand up and fight for your beliefs, except behind your own computer or in a civilized country.
Go to Fallujah, Iraq and explain to the locals that you are Canadian against the American occupation, see how long you live looking like a "Crusader" or "Infidel". Tell Al'Queda that you are a Canadian Atheist, Pagan, or Christian and see how long you survive (probably shorter as a an Atheist who denies the existence of any God). Spain is learning that removing the troops doesn't stop the bombings, as another 26 lbs of explosives was prevented from being detonated. |
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k027
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:38 am Post subject: |
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seasalt wrote: |
The huge majority of the worlds nations did not approve of the illegal invasion of Iraq, under international law it was illegal
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International law, like any other law, is only as good as good as the institutions charged with enforcing the law. The institutions created by the "huge majority of the worlds nations" are among the feeblest, over-hyped, useless organizations created by human beings.
Consider the United Nations. International law (UN sanctions against Iraq) were openly ignored by French, German, and Russian businesses). The UN took no action. Genocide, a violation of international, was committed/is being committed in Cambodia, Rwanda, Iraq, the Balkans, Somalia, etc. The UN did nothing. How many years now has Slobodan Milosevic been on trial?
International law is a farce.
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SicPreFix
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Joined: Feb 21, 2004
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Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. I've been having a gander at this thread and I must say I am impressed.
Jamming you really do seem rather ignorant of things you imply such vast knowledge on. That which you call socialism is not. That which you call democracy only occassionaly is.
I suspect, from what you say, that you know little or nothing about any place on the planet other than the Great and Glorious Land of Fatty Big Macs. And of America's vast range of peoples I suspect you may know even less than I do, although you inhabit the place.
But hey, that's just my uninformed, stupid, non-American, socialist opinion.
Tell me something, are you perchance a member of one of those American Christian neo-nazi groups by any chancce? I'm not saying you are, but your hate-filled rhetoric certainly sounds very, very much like what one might hear from jewwatch or one of those horrid, horrid little sites. Is that your MO? Is that your providence? Rabid intolerance, deep ignorance, comprehensive misunderstanding, incomplete and uninformed opinions.
And my goodness, but you are truly an offensive SoB, aren't you? Such language; such intolerance; such hostility. I am tempted to use your sneaky little backwater tactics and send a report to your masters here at Computer Cops. Maybe they would be interested in having a little notification of how well one of their admins handles himself when in the clinch. My, my. But no, I won't stoop to that level.
Listen, never mind the Yankee neo-nazies, you just might fit right in with a group of Bin Laden blasters with nary a nod or a wink. Such intolerance as you exhibit is prime MO for groups like that. They would just love your attitude. "Death to all disbelieving heathens," or some such rubbish. I can see you with your cardboard sign, dancing in the streets of religious fervour and holy intolerance. What a sight.
Good heavens and gracious me. And to think you call yourself a Christian. Woe to those who would be real Christians professing and practising the Lord Jesus's acceptance and tolerance of those who would be different.
My goodness Jamming. You should bow your head in reverent abasement at the vigour of your hostility and and the angry, vicious depth of your intolerance of those who would be different from yourself.
Jamming, you frighten me. |
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Jamming
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Not as much as you frighten me, yow are more informed and probably never been to the Middle East. I have Muslim Friends there and spent much time there. Even they know about the fanatic that must be opposed.
The fanatics are coming for all of us, they will give no quarter and will receive none. Why do you think that you don't hear Muslim neighbors in the West speak out against the terror. They are afraid and know that they are especially vulnerable.
You have no idea what being a Christian is and you think to tell about my beliefs, now who is ignorant? You have no idea what is going on in the world except through the press in your little corner of the world. Stop playing at an adult games, become an adult go and see the world, talk to the people.
I am under no illusion about America, we fight as hard as we can and we make mistakes. Sometimes the wrong people get killed, but at least we are doing something and not depending upon others for our safety, like Canada.
You probably right the wars will never come to you as you will be safe in your nice gun free communities. Other people will pay the price and you and yours will never have to. If I am ignorant and in the world, I pity your "Knowledge" while you live in a safety not of your own making.
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SicPreFix
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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So you are Santa Claus! Golly gee, I knew it all along. How's the rum?
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Jamming
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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That's the best you can do? Take cheap shots and accuse, then disappear when things don't go your way. Just like your other arguments, you can't keep your side going. When I was in Afghanistan during the Soviet Occupation, I saw that the extremist were going to be trouble. I included it in my ongoing reports, but things that trouble people are sometimes left out of reports by political appointees of past administrations.
Life is not simple as you would like to make it, people who you treat nice will think that is weakness in parts of the world. Everywhere is not the same, you have to understand who you are dealing with and what their expectations are. You cannot treat sociopaths that hate you for existing with the same forgiveness or they will just kill you and go to the next person. Sometimes you have to put the sociopaths down and have the guts to do so. |
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NPonthehudson
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: Spain is out! |
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Well, Spain just withdrew from Iraq.
We (the USA) must look like a "house divided" to the terrorists...I am distressed to learn that the Osama tape had any success at all.
Thoughts, anyone?
I need a drink...will likely head to the tavern after this.
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Jamming
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Spain will learn that those who accomodate Terrorism, will still suffer it along with the rest of us. Even since the pull out was announced to occur, Spain has had other attempts at bombing their rails. |
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NPonthehudson
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:35 am Post subject: |
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You know that, and I know that...but why, for the love of God, would Spain succumb to terroristic threats?!
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Jamming
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:49 am Post subject: |
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IMHO, because they are either Cowards or Fools. |
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NPonthehudson
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:11 am Post subject: |
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This concerns me deeply because my fear is that we appear to our enemies as a divided nation, and a group of divided allies...just exactly what Bin-Laden was hoping for when he sent his last video tape!
My beloved cousin is now in Afghanistan, sent to, as he put it. "bring Osama's head back on a pike".
I am sorry we are at war, but, since we are, if we do not unify as a nation against these sociopaths, our troops, and, ultimately, the reputation of our country will suffer!
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ggsearch
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:19 am Post subject: |
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NPonthehudson wrote: |
You know that, and I know that...but why, for the love of God, would Spain succumb to terroristic threats?! |
Because (just like we dutch people) they where pushed in a war by a government that wanted to shake greedie hands with the bush administration.
It's not that the people of spain or Holland where standing in one front behind that war. There are many more country's that do with people like the sadam folks did.
Now I agree, we are still in war (althoug some people are in denial with that) , so clean up the mess and get the boy's back home.
And hope that the Iraq people can live in peace on their own terms.
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jboz
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Keep up the good work Jamming.
These bleeding heart liberals have no idea how the minds of these maniacs work. To show tolerance and open your heart to those that would crush you without a second thought is more than naive, it is insane. The only thing they understand is violence, that is what they are taught from the day they are born. Offer your hand in friendship and they will slit your wrist. Where are all these "good Muslims"? Why aren't they speaking out against terrorists? Here in Australia we have the "grand mullah" of Australia calling for Jihad and he has the nerve to call "real Australians", un-Australian for not pulling out of Iraq. I am so sick of hearing these do-gooding terrorist supporters carrying on about how the Allies should not be in the Middle East. I'd love to see the US set up a permanent military presence in Iraq in order to keep the surrounding natives under control.
This plague of Islam has to be wiped from the earth. It is a political/religious ideology of hate and domination. Thank you America (our strongest Allie) for having the determination to fight this evil before it grows worse. Just take a look a countries that have embraced the socialist multicultural propaganda. Look at how they are now regretting their decision to allow these ingrates the right to infest their home cultures like a cancer from within.
Luckily, in Australia, we have a majority that still believes that our own cultural heritage is still worth something, but the infection is spreading here too, due to the commie liberals that run the education system, poisoning the minds of our children with socialist ideals and making them feel ashamed to be proud to be Australian, because that is un-Australian in the new "enlightened multicultural era".
I've read enough BS regarding "illegal wars", "non sanctioned invasions" to make me sick. What regard do Muslim terrorists have for legalities or sanctions? That's right, none. They have an agenda to rule the world and they are doing everything in their power to achieve that goal. The undermining of the US and it's Allies is part of that agenda. So anyone that undermines the the US and their Allies is directly helping terrorists.
As for the Spanish, I can't believe they allowed terrorists to stand over them so easily. They have unleashed the schoolyard bully to stand over them for evermore now. Spain has turned to shite. Our own socialist opposition leader in Australia is trying to win the bleeding heart vote by promising to return Australian troops from Iraq by Christmas if he wins the upcoming election. However, the polls seem to indicate his ploy has backfired, as his ratings have dropped since his cynical political point scoring exercise has been seen for what it is. A lame attempt to gain power by playing on the fears of the populace. Fortunately, Australians are not easily stood over and don't take to kindly to being threatened by scum. We will hopefully stand by our US allies in good times and bad.
Cheers
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