God?

ekrubtap · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:52 am Post subject:

+++++++++++++++ATTENTION CHRISTIANS+++++++++++++ Your assignment after services this morning, good christians, is to take your wives/girlfriends/husbands/boyfriend (if living in sin) back to bed. OK, are we there yet? All snugly are we? OK now, while gazing lovingly into your mates big Bambi eyes, reach slowly under the covers (everything done in bed, for the first couple of hours, anyway, should be done slowly. But that's a lesson for another day) OK, reach slowly under the covers and softly and gently, dang!.......forgot to tell you to take your clothes off, didn't I? Y'all are under the covers fully clothed, aren't ya? Oh well, this can still work. Got that hand under the cover? I hope you warmed it up first. OK, now place your hand alongside your partner's breast in the area of the armpit and....start counting ribs. Both sides. Then have your partner reciprocate. Compare your findings and report back here. And if you try to tell me there is a one rib difference then you're being less than honest and doomed to roast eternally in the fires o' hell 'cause christians expect that sort of thing. Unless, of course you're Catholic, where this would be a venial sin and you have to do 30 days in the Purgatorium, where they keep the thermostat pretty darn high, before ascending into the blessed air-conditioning of heaven, where you get to sit on a cloud, listen to harp music, and mingle with the rest of the devout. Forever. Eternally.......(Spare me. If it turns out I'm wrong, send me to hell. That's where all the interesting people go, and probably a better class of party altogether.)

TMOV · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:09 am Post subject:

TMOV · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:11 am Post subject:

ekrubtap · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:47 am Post subject:

XX and XY chromosome pairings are not cut and dried, black and white. Endicrinology plays a vital role in the process of biological sexuality, particularly hormone levels, their timing, and the body's responsiveness to them. Two examples of conditions that illustrate this point follow. The first is a condition called congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) that causes some XX female fetuses to develop male-like external genitalia because their adrenal glands produce large amounts of androgens, virilizing the fetus. These children will sometimes menstruate through the phallus after puberty. A second condition called androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) causes XY male fetuses to develop female external genitalia. Their normal testes produce androgens but, because of a cellular abnormality that inhibits response to the hormone, gestational development is unaffected they have a female external morphology at birth.

Research into genetics yields another surprise. There are apparently several variations on the familiar XX and XY chromosomal pairings. In addition to XX and XY thereís also, for example, XO (Turners' syndrome, a sex chromosome missing), XXY (Klinefelter syndrome). Embryos can also develop with XX cells in one part of the body and XY or other type cells in another part called mosaicism. From;Disorders of Sexual Differentiation, medical journal; Gender Identity, on Ask the Expert, May 1998; What is AIS?, , on the Medhelp website; Genetic Disorders, Tulane University genetics website.

All of this may amount to no more than a moot point, though, because...
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TMOV · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 3:08 pm Post subject:

[quote="ekrubtap"]XX and XY chromosome pairings are not cut and dried, black and white. Endicrinology plays a vital role in the process of biological sexuality, particularly hormone levels, their timing, and the body's responsiveness to them. Two examples of conditions that illustrate this point follow. The first is a condition called congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) that causes some XX female fetuses to develop male-like external genitalia because their adrenal glands produce large amounts of androgens, virilizing the fetus. These children will sometimes menstruate through the phallus after puberty. A second condition called androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) causes XY male fetuses to develop female external genitalia. Their normal testes produce androgens but, because of a cellular abnormality that inhibits response to the hormone, gestational development is unaffected they have a female external morphology at birth.

Research into genetics yields another surprise. There are apparently several variations on the familiar XX and XY chromosomal pairings. In addition to XX and XY thereís also, for example, XO (Turners' syndrome, a sex chromosome missing), XXY (Klinefelter syndrome). Embryos can also develop with XX cells in one part of the body and XY or other type cells in another part called mosaicism. From;Disorders of Sexual Differentiation, medical journal; Gender Identity, on Ask the Expert, May 1998; What is AIS?, , on the Medhelp website; Genetic Disorders, Tulane University genetics website.

All of this may amount to no more than a moot point, though, because...

BooRad · Sergeant Joined: Feb 13, 2004 Posts: 141 Location: USA

And, like, hey...don't forget the YY's either. I wonder if that could be why some people ARE bigger pricks than others??

BooRad

shamash · Corporal Joined: Mar 21, 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

let us make man in our own image and likeness......

It seems to me that God is spirit and therefore "in our own image and likeness" would mean our spirits were made in the image of God not the body.

Also lets not forget the Bible was written by men and at a time when men ruled and women were little more than property to most men. Do you think anyone at that time would have admitted(or wrote) any female was superior to them? I think not. Luckily someday the truth will come out, is coming out now about our true origins. Keep your eyes and heart open and you just may find what you weren't looking for.

Cuc2004 · Corporal Joined: Mar 25, 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Uk

Don't forget the subject guys!

ekrubtap · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:49 am Post subject:

God cannot be real. The literary god, as represented via "God's Word" in the bible as perfection personified (OK, Deified) screwed up immediately. In the attempt to create man(kind) in his perfect image he obviously fell short of the mark. Adam just didn't work out. (I know, y'all like to blame Eve, but hey, Adam made in God's image, Eve made of Adam's rib. Talking snakes. How is this Eve's fault?)

Then shortly after the tasting of the fruit of the Tree O" Good & Evil (which was supposed to kill but also failed), God's out strolling in the garden, talking to himself, which tipped off A&E to his presence, so they hide in the bushes (???), and God's like, yoo hoo, Adam and Eve, where are you? Come out, come out. Ally, ally in free. Damn, forgot the omnicience in my other pants.

So then G curses the subtle silver tonged devil of an articulating serpent, telling it to eat my dust for the rest of forever. Well that didn't work out too well either. Some of my best friends are serpents, and when we dine out they go for stuff like bugs, and mice, sometimes a cow if it's been awhile between noshes. Nary a mention of dust.

ekrubtap · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: God?

wandrinstar · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:44 pm Post subject:

SicPreFix wrote:
You might be interested to know that in the real world we all begin as female.

I believe we were gestated in the earlier stages with no particular sex. It is sometime later it is decided. I read that in a response to a question, "why do men have nipples". I am speaking about early in the pregnancy. Rolling Eyes

ekrubtap · Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject:

Yes and no. Six of one, a half dozen of the other. Genetic sex is determined at the instant the genes of a sperm combine with those of an ovum. (The sperm contain either an X or a Y chromosome, the ovum, an X. XX=female, XY=male, for those of you who slept through sex ed.) There are other possibilities as per an entry above.

Though our sex is determined when the female and male gamets meet up on that important first date, actual sexually determinent development doesn't take place until week 5-6. However we are not asexual during this period. We are, in fact, hermaphroditic. (from Hermes and Aphrodite, a couple of gods wouldn't you know.) At this point in the embryonic reproductive system the paramesonephric, or Mullerian ducts (future female ducts) develop alongside the mesonephric ducts (future male ducts). Both are collectively known as the gonadal ridges, and both sets of ducts empty into a common chamber called the cloaca. The embryo is said to be sexually indifferent and things can ostensibly go either way .
Shortly after the gonadal ridges appear, primordial germ cells migrate to them from the yolk sac and seed the developing gonads with stem cells destined to become spermatogonia or oogonia.(male or female gonads). Once these cells are in residence, the gonadal ridges differentiate into testes or ovaries, into Adam or Eve, depending on the genetic makeup of the embryo.

shamash · Corporal Joined: Mar 21, 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

Is God real you ask? In order to find the answer two requirements must be met:

1.The seeing of the Ego for what it truly is(that which is the root of all suffering/problems in the world).

2.The release of same.

ekrubtap · Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:34 am Post subject:

A qualified yea to #1, somewhat regretful nay to #2.

The ego (one of the Freudian triumvirate of id, ego, superego) is not all bad. I think without a sense of "self" we would be akin to zombies. However there is that green eyed monster "conceit" that comes bundled with the package, that I would guess is part of an ancient survival mechanism, that in turn is a bunch of electrical pulses crossing synapses in the R-complex or lymbic system (the older, more primitive parts of our brain. The R-complex, or Reptillian complex was the original brain we had back when we were tempting Adam and Eve Razz

. The limbic system is built around the R-complex and adds to it but does not alter or replace it.. And relatively recently in the evolutionary scale we developed the neo-cortex which in turn surrounds the limbic and R-complex, again, adding to them but not altering them. Apparently the best we can hope for is a moderating influence and/or suppression of some of our more base instincts. Which in itself is probably a source of psychic conflict which could manifest itself in undesireable ways. (I'm guessing here.)

Which brings us to point two. We can't release ego. It is intrinsic to our "being". (and I suspect groups/individuals who claim they can/have released ego of a little ego flexing of their own.)

God is Ego. Ergo 'e go.

shamash · Corporal Joined: Mar 21, 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

Yes Ekrubtap i agree with you and see that i needed to be a bit more precise here( i'm not perfect like God, but is God actually perfect- that's another story) Let take the example of Jesus Christ. He lived a life of sacrifice and giving yet he too retained ego to a certain degree, though far less that the average person of todays world. So the release of ego of which i speak is not a complete loss, but a great lessening compared to most people in todays society almost so that it would seem to be non-existent.


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