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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:21 pm    Post subject: open port 110
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Confused Benign is holding open port 110. This is enough of a concern for me not to use this otherwise excellent bit of software. For a full explanation care of grc.com go to
http://grc.com/faq-shieldsup.htm#NAV2K
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:50 pm    Post subject:
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The ideal solution is to hold the port open locally and not on the public interface. Did you scan your system using our tools to determine if port 110 is open?

And if its open, is it so because you haven't locked it down in your firewall?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: open port 110
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Confused Benign is holding open port 110. This is enough of a concern for me not to use this otherwise excellent bit of software. For a full explanation care of grc.com go to
http://grc.com/faq-shieldsup.htm#NAV2K


When you use Norton Internet Securety its is safe to have a open port 110. Try the portscan of Norton. Its open yes, but safe.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:01 pm    Post subject:
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Paul and Concerned ...

Arrow I just used the Gibson Research Shields Up program to confirm that Benign does seem to hold the POP3 Port 110 open. http://grc.com/

Arrow I use AVG Anti-Virus with the AVG Personal E-Mail Scanner. With that configuration the port is closed. When B9 is added to the mix, the port is open. I'm no expert, but it doesn't seem like a good thing ...

Commnets / thoughts welcome.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:08 pm    Post subject:
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Just as a sanity check use our online nmap scanner.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:24 pm    Post subject: It's open but the service is blocked
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Try actually connecting to it from an external IP address - it prints this message:

-ERR Connections are allowed only from the local host (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is not a local address)
Connection closed by foreign host.

So the port seems to be open but B9 drops the connection - so it's safe.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:27 pm    Post subject:
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I've got Benign running on port 110 and it doesn't show up in either Gibson's port scan or the port scan on this site. I'm using WinProxy, which was a pain to get configured correctly, but seems to do a good job running my computer in stealth mode and works great to share my network connection now that it's configured.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject:
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Thanks Barru, that's what I was hoping for. So it seems concerned's firewall configuration isn't proper. I'm getting a copy of B9 & MW this week, so I'll be able to start helping out more with both.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:04 pm    Post subject:
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here is the result I got from sheilds up

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POP3
Stealth! There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or even any computer) exists at this IP address!

With Benign running
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:24 pm    Post subject:
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Open and safe??? I'm not so sure. If port 110 appears to be open then its visible and therefore vulnerable. I've tried different rules with local and remote ports - I'm using Sygate personal Firewall. Using GRC Shields Up, UDP port scanner or nmap port scanner I get the same results: port 110 is open!
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The method of holding open port 110 has already been discredited and is no longer used by Symantec. Take a look at these articles
http://grc.com/faq-shieldsup.htm#NAV2K
http://www.bugnet.com/alerts/bugalert_122299.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject:
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The question is why are some folks able to stealth it and not others?
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So what is everyone saying...!!! That B9 should only be run while you are actually dealing with e-mails, then should be closed down...??????
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Maybe it's the OS I'm running Win XP Pro all of my ports are showing stealh on sheilds up
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:31 am    Post subject:
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So what is everyone saying...!!! That B9 should only be run while you are actually dealing with e-mails, then should be closed down...??????
Oh not at all. You see in your firewall configuration you should be able to allow it to listen on the local port, but not on the public port. All firewalls have the ability to set it for local or public connections.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:52 am    Post subject:
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Very Happy I've now managed to configure my firewall properly!!!

Now I get "stealthed" results on port 110. I simply (after a good nights sleep!) went to Sygates web site and read the instructions. Hmmm...
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