Is the World a better for having religion?

Jamming · Colonel Premium Member Joined: Jun 22, 2002 Posts: 1874

Really I will be just a little bit older, than that.

BTW the quote has a context

Anarchist · Guest

The chances of the bible being a true representation of the events are remote to say the least.
After all the church has worked hand in hand with the state for so long that anything harmful in it would have been written out a long time ago, is there an organisation that has been as corrupt as the church, I would doubt it. One only has to count the references to King and Kingdom "his is the power and the glory" this all reads like propaganda promoting feudalism, one only needs to know that the head of the Church of England is the Queen to get a line of sight on the truth of it.

In essence I am saying the bible has very little chance of remaining unedited and uncorrupted, very little chance indeed.
My own personal opinion of Jesus is a little different to Emma Goldman's, I tend to view Christ as an Anarchist not the son of a mystical being from the blue yonder, but a political activist and general rabble rouser from those times, so many people were turned onto an Anarchistic way of life IE: no leaders no kings that the state decided to dispose of him and created an organisation to usurp this belief in Christ's words, this being the church, and to control the people with this vehicle of corruption, to subvert the words of christ ANARCHIST = ANACHRIST.

Jamming · Colonel Premium Member Joined: Jun 22, 2002 Posts: 1874

So what you cannot explain you take on faith? Would it interest you the Gnostic or that Aramaic Bibles are very similar in translation? That most New Testament Bible translations are based upon versions of the Bible written between 100AD to 200AD? That Christianity didn't become the State Religion of Rome until the approx 350AD. Probably not, I a thinking.

Anarchist · Guest

I take nothing on faith, I think the belief in God is illogical and my solution is logical, I can see it happening, I cannot see there being a God.

Your comments on the dates, well can this be exact, can you carbon date words ?
Of course when I say the "Church" I mean religion as a whole.

Jamming · Colonel Premium Member Joined: Jun 22, 2002 Posts: 1874

So you lump Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, Deism, Anamism, and others into the same group. You speak of logic based upon observations as facts, when scientist tell us the mere act of observation can change the result. Funny how these facts become beliefs, isn't it.

Anarchist · Guest

Whenever I see someone bowed, or with their face in the dirt in an act of submission to anothers will I see the hand of the state

Equality is good ABSOLUTE equality is better, servility is evil

By the remotest of remote chances that there is a heaven, I promise I will meet up with you and we will see whom was closest to the mark
If I am wrong I wont stay long anyway as I shall demand equality with God, stand shoulder to shoulder with womever or whatever it is and argue that equality is best. I would probably be then abruptly cast out with Lucifer where I shall refuse to bow also

Jamming · Colonel Premium Member Joined: Jun 22, 2002 Posts: 1874

I see you, confuse License with Liberty. Actually God places each human as more important than his own Son. So you demand equality with the "I Am", where were you when creation came into being by the Big Bang? Nowhere. God values you to the Nth degree and you value no one but yourself.

Woody · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:28 pm Post subject:

A man always has two reasons for doing anything--a good reason and the real reason.

It is not my quote....but it is the basis for all religions.

phoenix22 · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:24 am Post subject:

cyberblob · Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:12 am Post subject: The Good Book which one ?

very good gents not one quote (but for some) from the good "BOOK" or Greek or Latin nor "Islamic" or Shinto" nor "Greek" or the like top marks for what we don't know is what we know ! molsty takes 7 year to do ! Amen brother !

tornfree · Cadet Joined: Jan 17, 2004 Posts: 3 Location: USA

The question is: How could it be otherwise?

It's here, whether anyone likes it or not.
I don't think you can say that it is any person or persons that invented it, unles that person is God.
However, I think it's abundantly clear there are many variants of religion invented by people.
But something has to be true, don't you think?
If a person truly loves the truth, then the God of truth will not let that person be decieved.
That would be impossible.

b11ngoo · Guest

About that observation remark above.

Gravity + Code = ~ 1. > ~ .5

If you got a itch you gonna be scratchin.

One of the curses of God is the itch.

One way to get the itch is sharing with a contaminated person.

I look at you and see.
You hear that.
I see your comment on observation.

That makes your stance one and my another. If one of us is wrong. Are you then a greater person then me ?

Maybe.

These words need to be meditated upon to reveal te content. I won't explain myself.

I'm no troll. You don't need to respond.

Peace.

b11ngoo b11ngoo

tornfree · Guest

The point I was trying to make is that the question: "Is the World a better for having religion?" is, in my opinion, not striking at the real problem.

Obviously, the world is NOT a better place of having religion, that is if you take into consideration all religion as a whole.

And it would not but make my point more clear if I tried to state what I thought was the right one, because I think its clear from my prior post that I believe there is only one right one.

Someone is bound to disagree with me, and there are some religious people who think it would be their divine purpose to even kill me because of that.

Its a life, not a doctrine.
The thing that separates religious groups from one another is not the life they live but the doctrines they teach.
If you stop and think about it, you can see that those folks who are divided or at odds with each other are all living the same life, even if their cultures or customs may seem to be different.

They all have anger, envy, jealousy, strife, are selfish and lack basic human love for one another. In other words, they are all human with the same human weaknesses toward sin as everyone else.

There is a remedy for this unfortunate human condition. Everyone who sincerely wants it and seeks for it, will find it.
Thats Gods promise through Jesus Christ.

MrsHoppes · Sergeant Joined: Feb 08, 2004 Posts: 122 Location: USA

Is the world a better place for having religion?

No. Because there are many, many, many religions. Many of them following false gods.

Don't you have faith in your religion?

I do not have a religion. I have a very deep personal relationship with Christ. I have been doing some personal studies on biblical submission. (and yes, I submit to my husband. Willingly, lovingly, and freely.) I have been doing studies on headcoverings. (Yes, I have started covering more than at church. I cover whenever I am in public as well as at church and when I pray and study.) And I have been doing Torah study. I have found so much grace and mercy in the Torah that I never realized was there until I started this study. Jesus' sacrifice was more than just dying for my sins. His sacrifice was also the grace manifested in the flesh. It is so amazing and humbling. The love He showed. How can I not observe the law He came to fulfill?

Well, now you know my stance on religion in the world. Religion is man-made. The grace and mercy of God through Christ is a real relationship that can not be substituted by some institution given to us by man or govornment or making a golden calf or watching TV.
It is real. It comes before my husband. It comes before my son. Just like my husband's relationship with Christ comes before me and before our son.
And, I wouldn't have it any other way.

YSIC
Kim

ekrubtap · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:28 am Post subject:

Religion is belief in a deity. Organised religion is something else entirely and not the subject of this thread. How can anything that engenders the religious chauvanism evident in this thread be anything but harmful to society. I get the impression that through the brotherly love you'd as soon smite your neighbour-of-a-different-religion as look at 'em, some of you. Then there's the related childish petulance of my god is bigger/better.
Religion breeds intolerance, and


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