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TMOV · Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:36 pm Post subject: patrick henry

HISTORY FORGOTTEN

This is worth remembering, because it is true. It's familiar territory, but..... Those of you that graduated from school after the early 60's were probably never taught this. Our courts have seen to that!

Did you know that 52 of the 55 signers of "The Declaration of Independence" were orthodox, deeply committed, Christians? The other three all believed in the Bible as the divine truth, the God of scripture, and His personal intervention. It is the same Congress that formed the American Bible Society, immediately after creating the Declaration of Independence, the Continental Congress voted to purchase and import 20,000 copies of Scripture for the people of this nation.

Patrick! Henry, who is called the firebrand of the American Revolution, is still remembered for his words, "Give me liberty or give me death;" but in current textbooks, the context of these words is omitted. Here is what he actually said: "An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

These sentences have been erased from our textbooks. Was Patrick Henry a Christian? The following year, 1776, he wrote this: "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great Nation was founded not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions,! but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For that reason alone, people of other faiths have been afforded freedom of worship here."

Consider these words that Thomas Jefferson wrote in the front of his well-worn Bible: "I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our creator." He was also the chairman of the American Bible Society, which he considered his highest and most important role.

On July 4, 1821, President Adams said, "The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: "It connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."

Calvin Coolidge, our 30th President of the United States reaffirmed thi! s truth when he wrote, "The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our country."

In 1782, the United States Congress voted this resolution: "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools."

William Holmes McGuffey is the author of the McGuffey Reader, which was used for over 100 years in our public schools with over 125 million copies sold until it was stopped in 1963. President Lincoln called him the "Schoolmaster of the Nation." Listen to these word of Mr. McGuffey: "The Christian religion is the religion of our country. From it are derived our nation, on the character of God, on the great moral Governor of the universe. On ! its doctrines are founded the peculiarities of our free Institutions. From no source has the author drawn more conspicuously than from the sacred Scriptures. From all these extracts from the Bible, I make no apology."

Of the first 108 universities founded in America, 106 were distinctly Christian, including the first, Harvard University, chartered in 1636. In the original Harvard Student Handbook, rule number 1 was that students seeking entrance must know Latin and Greek so that they could study the Scriptures: "Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main end of his life and studies, is, to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life, John 17:3; and therefore to lay Jesus Christ as the only foundation for our children to follow the moral principles of the Ten Commandments."

James Madison, the primary! author of the Constitution of the United States, said this: "We have staked the whole future of all our political constitutions upon the capacity of each of ourselves to govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the Ten Commandments."

Today, we are asking God to bless America. But, how can He bless a Nation that has departed so far from Him? Prior to September 11, He was not welcome in America. Most of what you read in this article has been erased from our textbooks. Revisionists have rewritten history to remove the truth about our country's Christian roots.

You are encouraged to share with others, so that the truth of our nation's history will be told.

John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in H! im shall not perish but have eternal life!

This information shared is only a drop of cement to help secure a foundation that is crumbling daily in a losing war that most of the country doesn't even know is raging on, in, and around them...

Please do your bit and share this with as many as possible and make the ill-informed aware of what they once had.
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k027 · Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject:

Right on TMOV! Those who seek to banish God from public life are the same ones who advocate moral relatism. They hate what God represents - an absolute sense of right and wrong. Smile

recondo · Private Joined: Apr 19, 2004 Posts: 43 Location: USA

The way things are going in a few more years our legislate-from-the-bench judges will make rulings to allow you to be jailed for reminding us of these pesky historical facts.
Some of the things one reads and observes about our kids' the total lack of any historical knowledge of our country except the revisionist version are truly shameful..... thank you ACLU, thank you NEA, etc.

ekrubtap · Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:20 am Post subject:

Let's try a little more objectivity when we look at history. Try reading a history book without those Christian tinted glasses.

Read your founding documents. Note the total absence of any mention of Jesus, Christ or Christianity. There is also no reference to any Christian church-Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Episcopal, Calvinist-nothing.

Your Declaration of Independence refers only to "Nature's God," "divine Providence" and a "Creator." Comfortable enough for a Muslim, Native American, even a Pandeist. Furthermore "Nature's God" was part of a passage that reads, ".the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them." See where "God" got second billing?

Your Constitution, with its Bill of Rights, shows no Christian roots at all. No deity is mentioned, let alone a Christian one. No amount of wishfull thinking can make the Constitution a Christian document.

But wait, it does mention religion. It forbids Congress from making any laws establishing or prohibiting it, and it forbids religious tests for holding public office. So the Constitution's sole reference to religion is an emphatic "keep it out of Government".

Washington's cherry tree story was a fabrication by a Christian minister, Mason Weems. According to Washington's diarys, he was, at best, a sporatic church attendee, making the effort a few times a year, surely due to social pressure as opposed to religious conviction.

John Adams was a Unitarian and flatly denied the doctrine of eternal damnation-obviously not a Christian. John Quincy Adams was likewise a Unitarian.

Thomas Jefferson, a freethinker, urged his nephew to "Question with boldness even the existence of a God." Hardly words of a Christian. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus (see The Jefferson Bible) leaving only what he deemed the correct moral philosophy of Jesus.

When Christians visit the Jefferson Memorial in Washington they read Jefferson's words engraved thereon: "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every from of tyranny over the mind of man.", and assume Christianity. Yet this passage is a response to the tyranny of the Christian Philadelphia clergy, who saw Jefferson as an infidel during the presidential election. The memorial words came from a letter written to Benjamin Rush in 1800 in response to Rush's warning about the Philadelphia clergy attacking Jefferson............"The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion, & this is the cause of their printing lying pamphlets against me. . ."
Note the "printing of lying pamphlets"...some things never change.

James Madison studied for the ministry but came to a change of heart at some point. Madison of course went on to become a fierce advocate of church/state separation, and as an adult he refused to discuss religion at all. Hardly the marque of a Christian in a Christian society.

Abraham Lincoln's closest friend and law partner for over twenty years, William H. Herndon, claimed that Abe had no religious beliefs at all. Lincoln's own silence on the subject makes his friend's observation seem probable.

Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen and Thomas Paine were all well known freethinkers. Though not Presidents, they were strongly influential in forming your early republic.

Even if every one of your presidents were a bible toting Christian (which they obviously were not) it would not change the secular foundation of your country. You are no more a "Christian nation" than China, wishful thinking of a minority of evangelical fundamentalists notwithstanding.


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