1984 Ford Laser auto. - need repeir help.

blinksniff

My laser has a rust hole in the water pipe that comes out of the back of the water pump then runs to the back of the engine and three rubber hoses run of it. My question is I cant see how the pipe is fastened to the water pump, is it just a press fit with a rubber ring perhaps? I cant pull it out by hand but I will lever it if I know that is the way it is supposed to come out. John. Embarassed

blinksniff · Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 1:06 am Post subject:

Are there no Aussies here or others from countries that have Ford Lasers.

Mariner · Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject:

Ask a dealer's mechanic, maybe look in a vehicle manual. Don't do Lasers my way.

If the main pipe is metal and the pump obviously is, then either the pipe is an integral part of the pump - unlikely, or, it's fastened. Metal to metal? No. Has to be a rubber sleeve joint between pump and pipe. Will sit over the outside of both metal parts and be clamped. Usually Hose clip or spring type.

Either way, you're gonna need a new part. Just going to a parts store and asking for the parts...plural...will tell you all you need to know. Then, when the part or parts are presented to you, Bingo, you know what you need. You will know, won't you??

Don't forget new joints now, will you.
That'll be $50 Aus please. Wink

blinksniff · Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject:

Thanks, I live in a remote area is why I asked, couldnt find forum here but I will have to go to Town soon (far away) Problem will be fixed eventually.

Mariner · Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:59 am Post subject:

In your case, call an auto parts shop and ask them what parts are involved form the pump back to the back of the motor.

Come to think of it, is there no way you can check out what you need via the www? If you don't have a part shop or dealer address, google for it with your PC. Just about anything you care to name is available via the net, auto parts should be no problem. Just try (your location) +Ford+dealer+parts keep trying different combinations. You got no www addresses in your phone book? Phone a dealer and ask if they have a URL and show parts.

As you're in a remote area, you can't afford to make the trip and risk not getting all you need in one go. Is water pump alloy or cast iron? If alloy, there is the risk of an eroded stub pipe -the part the rubber hose connects to, being sufficiently eroded that it will break when removal is attempted. If cast iron, it should be strong enough to withstand a little punishment, though it is a brittle metal.

I'd suggest you have spare everything; rubber sleeve hose, clips, joints, jointing compound and, don't forget the rear pipe connection either. Maybe that you need to prepare to remove the pump itself, so you'd need aforementioned parts for that.

Try googling for what you need and come back and let me know how you got on.

blinksniff · Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject:

Thanks mariner, I will try Google, but there is no real urgency, when I said I will get there eventually - I meant concerning the repair, I have another old vehicle and between the two I do alright
- use one while fixing other. Cheers.

Mariner · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:59 am Post subject:

Good luck to you. Forgot to tell you, we got a Kiwi here....living in OZ. Now he shoulda spotted you.....probably thought you'd tell him to go back home. heh, heh.

Blast · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 2:21 am Post subject:

Mariner · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 7:26 am Post subject:

Never lever. Screwdrivers are used for screwing not for levering. In this situation, cut with a Stanley/craft knife. Make the cut along the length of the pipe. Then peel away following around the circumferance of the pipe in order to place as little strain on the adjoining metalwork as is possible.

Blast · Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject:

Hey, down here, "lever is leader" screwdrivers make great chizels and no.8 wire will build you anything.

If you can't budge it, you haven't hit it hard enough
Duct tape will solve all your problems
(if something rattles, duct tape it)

...taken straight out of Bills Boys Own Magazine

harleywhite · Lieutenant Joined: Feb 05, 2004 Posts: 167 Location: USA

Blast, it's so nice to see that american ways of things doesn't differ that much from there.

We are reknowned for our use of duct tape

and, it's no. 9 wire here...aka, bailing wire

blinksniff · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 10:09 pm Post subject:

I decided to lever it with a tyre lever and it came out. It has a O ring and there are two brackets welded to the pipe with bolts screwing into the block (Which I removed first)
which stops it coming out under pressure. Its badly
rusted at one end, could be cut of and repaired but
a new one is not dear, have ordered it and will pick it up in a few days. Thanks all.

Mariner · Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:17 pm Post subject:

Glad you got it sorted. Take no notice of the 'Oily Rags', it's the engieers you need to listen to. Wink


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