I withdraw

SicPreFix · Sergeant Joined: Feb 21, 2004 Posts: 121 Location: Canada

with humility.

Thank you all for showing me the ineffable truth and sincere depth of Christian thought, understanding, and acceptance of ideas and beliefs that differ from your own.

I humbly beg forgiveness for trying to share, however ineptly, concepts, philosophies, theories, and other meaningless ephemera that did not meet with your love and acceptance.

I should have known the error of my intolerant, incorrect and sinful ways before ever I chose to make my inept yet hopeful communications with such comprehensively intuitive and deeply knowledgeable folk as you have proved to be.

I plead, in Christ, for the gift of reason and humble forgiveness for my errant ways.

I plead, in Christ, for true abasement and tolerance for my misguided, if heartfelt turning from the obvious true path.

I plead, in Christ, for the strength, from your good wishes, to endow my poor and unworthy and abased soul with the strength to carry on.

I plead, in Christ, for the gift of tomorrow.

I plead, in Christ, for the sight of tomorrow's sunrise.

I thank you Shamash for showing such tender and well reasoned understanding when I diverted from the path of true comprehension with such evil thoughts and implications.

I thank you Jamming for explaining to me the true meaning of American purity, moral perfection, and forgiveness.

I thank you Mrs. Hoppes for tolerating my ribs, however shortened they may be.

I thank you Zippy for your deeper understanding and finer expression of the subtle depth of thought required for true humility and true exchange of complicated ideas.

I thank you chickengirl for not allowing yourself to succumb to the siren call of peer pressure.

Thank you ekrubtap for knowing where I really stand.

I open my veins in abject apology.

I open my veins in deepest apology.

I open my veins in the hope for understanding based on truths yet unknown.

Farewell.
Farewell.
Farewell.

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Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

_________________________
--- with thanks to W. B. Yeats

chickengirl · Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 10:42 am Post subject:

Wow...All I can say is that this post has touched my heart in a way that I am feeling extrememly ashamed.
Sicprefix...I can feel you so much from your words.
I know the feeling of wanting to bow out, and leave people to their misunderstandings. I know the feelings of desolation...of not being taken seriously...
I am sorry I allowed myself to to be baited, into feeling annoyed by your posts...In my eyes this is one of those sins many of us accept as ok..."I am only human"...But to me it is as bad as backbiting, lying and cheating our fellow-humans...We allow ourselves these so called "little sins" because they are not visble,and we think we are hiding them...but God always sees...we hide nothing from Him...
My goal is to learn to love, even when people have behaved in an unloveable way. Because I truly believe that we all are after the same things deep inside...to be loved, and accepted for who we are, with all our warts and wonders.
Please don't leave. I know this sounds corn-fed, but the older I get, the more I see things are cliche for a good reason..."no man is an island"...we do need each other...When it comes down to it, it is the people in our lives, that give it richness and texture. Everything else is just stuff. Liable to rust, or be eaten by moths.
You could have knocked me over with a feather...I would have never, expected this post from you...How little we know each other, and often we pigeonhole. We are all of us shallow...and all deep...as the ocean has it's depths, it also has its shores.
I may "talk the talk" but I have much to learn, in "walking the walk"...

1 Corinthians 13
1. IF I can speak in the tongues of men and even of angels, but have not love (that reasoning, intentional, spiritual devotion such as is inspired by God's love for and in us), I am only a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
2. And if I have prophetic powers ( the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose), and understand all the secret truths and mysteries and possess all knowledge, and if I have sufficient faith so that I can remove mountains, but have not love (God's love in me) I am nothing (a useless nobody).
3. Even if I dole out all that I have [to the poor in providing] food, and if I surrender my body to be burned or in order that I may glory, but have not love (God's love in me), I gain nothing.
4. Love endures long and is patient and kind; love never is envious nor boils over with jealousy, is not boastful or vainglorious, does not display itself haughtily.
5. It is not conceited (arrogant and inflated with pride); it is not rude (unmannerly) and does not act unbecomingly. Love (God's love in us) does not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not self-seeking; it is not touchy or fretful or resentful; it takes no account of the evil done to it [it pays no attention to a suffered wrong].
6. It does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail.
7. Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and it endures everything [without weakening].
8. Love never fails [never fades out or becomes obsolete or comes to an end]. As for prophecy ( the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose), it will be fulfilled and pass away; as for tongues, they will be destroyed and cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away [it will lose its value and be superseded by truth].
9. For our knowledge is fragmentary (incomplete and imperfect), and our prophecy (our teaching) is fragmentary (incomplete and imperfect).
10. But when the complete and perfect (total) comes, the incomplete and imperfect will vanish away (become antiquated, void, and superseded).
11. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; now that I have become a man, I am done with childish ways and have put them aside.
12. For now we are looking in a mirror that gives only a dim (blurred) reflection [of reality as in a riddle or enigma], but then [when perfection comes] we shall see in reality and face to face! Now I know in part (imperfectly), but then I shall know and understand fully and clearly, even in the same manner as I have been fully and clearly known and understood [ by God].
13. And so faith, hope, love abide [faith--conviction and belief respecting man's relation to God and divine things; hope--joyful and confident expectation of eternal salvation; love--true affection for God and man, growing out of God's love for and in us], these three; but the greatest of these is love.
(amplified version)
May God Bless, and hug you...and may I be forgiven for not loving as I should.

ZippyZingo · Corporal Joined: Apr 07, 2004 Posts: 71 Location: USA

shamash · Corporal Joined: Mar 21, 2004 Posts: 70 Location: USA

No your not wrong Zippy. He's an atheist. But i agree with your post Zippy. Very well put. Smile


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