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seasalt

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Post removed
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I can see where this type of post leads, I have no desire to continue the insults.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:05 pm    Post subject:
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Your point being?


A minor point of my own and I do not bring this to your attention to belittle you since I realize a lot of emotion more than likely was involved when you posted your topic, but did you really mean to name the title of your topic "30 Decades Of U.S. UN Vetoes."?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:39 pm    Post subject:
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Israel merely is trying to exist and someone has to give them a chance. Whereas other nations voted to create Israel as a Nation and then threw up their hands when the Arab Legion attacked and tried to destroy Israel as it came into existance.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 2:32 pm    Post subject:
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My point as stated. "How the U.S. has Voted/ Vetoed- See any bias - See any pattern ?"


Actually I was hoping to receive a reply of something to do with Israel but in this Seasalt you failed me.

seasalt wrote:
Simply put, the U.S. portrays itself to the world as the model of truth, freedom, democracy, protector of human rights. But in its deeds it is a blatantly hypocritical and self serving nation hell bent on world domination, and all the while dragging the rest of the world closer to the abyss.


I doubt the hell bent on world domination part since the U.S. leaders have successfully caused the United States to be a debtor nation and it is hard to dominate when you owe someone else.

I think the same discrepancies you find with the United States stated public portrait of itself versus its actual actions can also be applied to other countries and world dominate organizations.

In my opinion the world as a whole will very well go over the abyss one day but it will not be the United States who gives the world the shove.

It is possible Seasalt that you have bought the lie that the United States is presently the worlds lone superpower when this is blatantly untrue. There is another country which qualifies as a superpower.


seasalt wrote:
Much like England's history of Imperialism (which is another topic) & the end results of such imperialistic English doctrine, the U.S. has shown the rest of the world that it is not willing to learn from history or could care less and is not to be trusted in global affairs.


Actually Great Britians history of colonialism on the whole, while it lasted, brought betterment to different parts of the world more so than any ill effects the colonialism may have had.

Plus, since Great Britians world dominance ended I would think you yourself would learn from history and see that the United States dominance (as you wish to see it) is also on the decline. So Seasalt, you are like the one who crys "Fire!" after the fire department is in the act of extinquishing the blaze.

The sad part is that you wish to see the United States as the evil one and in so doing you miss the other evil ones who are on the rise.


seasalt wrote:
the U.S. has shown the rest of the world that it is not willing to learn from history or could care less and is not to be trusted in global affairs.


Mankind itself does not learn from history. So to imply that the United States alone suffers from this fault is not being intellectually honest.



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seasalt wrote:
You said " A minor point of my own and I do not bring this to your attention to belittle you since I realize a lot of emotion more than likely was involved when you posted your topic, but did you really mean to name the title of your topic "30 Decades Of U.S. UN Vetoes."?

You write, it was a "minor point", very minor in my opinion.
I have changed the mistake I had made, I hope it's to your satisfaction. And please, don't insult me. Your comment makes it perfectly clear that you indeed attempted to "belittle" me. If you had taken the time to think, you would have clearly known it was a simple mistake, made by an imperfect person just as you are. But you chose to point it out. I don't remember asking you to advise me of a simple typo, perhaps you had nothing better to do than find a single fault in someone else.


I was going to reply to the above quote but I decided not to waste my time doing so.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 7:26 pm    Post subject:
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There is a point here that none of you realize, we are not acting any differently than we always did. You paid pirates from North Africa to leave you alone, we spent "millions in defense and not one cent in tribute." We have always acted our own way when we grabbed the Confederate/Rebel Commissioners on a British Mail Ship out of Jamaica. We leave people alone that don't act against us, but we will fight to the last those that stand against us.

Britain at least acts, whereas Canada just plays at being a country, by letting the US defend it. Four Canadians were killed in a friendly fire incident and all they can think of is they need to get out of fighting Terrorists in Afghanistan and punishing the Pilots.

Acting means that people die from accidents, training, and combat, sometimes even civilians get killed. That's what happens from acting, what happens from re-acting is all those things happen at a later date to more people. That was the message of 9-11 and still others don't realize it and try to rationalize it away.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Post removed
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seasalt wrote:
I can see where this type of post leads, I have no desire to continue the insults.


Yes, my post was very insulting, insulting to the United States. Maybe the United States will wake up and change its course of action and let the world know that it will stand up for itself. I hope it does.


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Jamming wrote:
There is a point here that none of you realize, we are not acting any differently than we always did. You paid pirates from North Africa to leave you alone, we spent "millions in defense and not one cent in tribute." We have always acted our own way when we grabbed the Confederate/Rebel Commissioners on a British Mail Ship out of Jamaica. We leave people alone that don't act against us, but we will fight to the last those that stand against us.


The above is true but it also reflects an old United States. The United States of today has politicians as leaders and those politicians are afraid of bad press. When just about anything that is done militarily is instantly broadcast to the world that makes the leader politician even more unwilling to do what any real leader would do instantly.


Jamming wrote:
Britain at least acts, whereas Canada just plays at being a country, by letting the US defend it. Four Canadians were killed in a friendly fire incident and all they can think of is they need to get out of fighting Terrorists in Afghanistan and punishing the Pilots.


Yes, who can forget the British response to the Falkland Islands? I will not comment to Canada's actions except to say that I would not have wanted to be one of the soldiers on the ground killed by the jet. Canada is a socialist government and is acting as a socialist government does.



Jamming wrote:
Acting means that people die from accidents, training, and combat, sometimes even civilians get killed. That's what happens from acting, what happens from re-acting is all those things happen at a later date to more people. That was the message of 9-11 and still others don't realize it and try to rationalize it away.


And a lot of the others who rationalize it are sitting in high offfice in the United States. The very ones who, one would think, would want to react are making excuses for the actions of the attackers. Which goes to my saying that there is an old United States that for all intents and purposes has died, or is being allowed to die. And the inhabitants of the United States are the ones letting the United States die.

The old United States would react when action was called for and knew what action to take. This grotesque thing calling itself the United States today flip-flops, acts indecisive and gets its people killed.


An example, the killing of the four contract workers in Fallujah, Iraq.

Here are two commentaries of people who know what to do in Fallujah. There appear to be two ways of spelling Fallujah (Falluja).

One from a man: Fallujah delenda est

One from a woman: Raze Falluja


The new United States has done nothing or just wants to go after people seen in photographs and therefore gets its people killed. All because of a deep seated fear of bad press.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject:
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Hey CharlieB & Jamming.........

Be afraid, be very afraid.

The Canadian border is opening up.

Soon uncountable millions of gay, pot smoking, commie Canadian cows will be stampeding to your favorite fast food outlets.

You are what you eat.

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You forgot that the Canadian Cows also are the source of Mad Cows Disease in the US.
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