Using Benign with MailWasher Pro

sr618 · Cadet Joined: Jun 15, 2003 Posts: 9 Location: USA

Total novice & 'dimster' here,
But my question is .............. are MWP & Benign compatable?

I won a copy of Benign & was about to set it up when the question entered my mind Idea

Any help muchlee appreciated.

Ikeb · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:41 am Post subject:

Yup. They are currently independently applied. Here's the setup overview:

Server >> MWP

Server >> B9 >> Client

Eisenson · Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject:

okay - I have MWP running, and the primary issue seems to be embedded html that lets spam leak through the filters.

Today I bought Benign, and think it's installed. But shouldn't I tell MWP to check Benign for mail as though it's my mail server? Something seems to be missing here...

Ikeb · Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 1:15 am Post subject:

Actually yes. The client should be configured to your.mail.server.b9. The host file directs the client POP3 query via B9 and B9 proxies the query to your.mail.server. The response is filtered via B9 and the result is received by the client inbox.

This should have been set up during B9 installation. Did your host file and client account settings not get changed?

BTW -- "embedded html" -- how does that allow SPAM to leak through?

Eisenson · Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 1:25 am Post subject:

Well, when there's invisible html tags in a text string - as in via

Ikeb · Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 1:43 am Post subject:

No. The "right way" to detect SPAM is to implement MWP filters that find such invalid tags and other camouflage techniques and have MWP delete the SPAM before downloading the "legit" msgs to the client. I don't want B9 - or anything else for that matter - to strip the invalid tags from msgs before MWP has a peek, otherwise I might miss important SPAM "fingerprints".

BTW, there's "Legit" and there's "I'm-holding-my-nose-Legit". Some newsletters, especially from merchants, think they can pull a fast one and find out that I've read their msg and/or spy on my activities using other spyware techniques. B9 strips all that crap out of the msgs I choose to read. Wink

Wayward · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 12:40 am Post subject:

wandrinstar · Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject:

Eisenson wrote

Ikeb · Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:03 am Post subject:

Sorry, I don't follow that. If you could make me understand why you think B9 should check msgs on their way to MWP perhaps I could better explain the rationale for B9 NOT checking such msgs. Wink

wandrinstar · Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:46 am Post subject:

Hello Ikeb, that is the idea of b9, to let us know the history of our email.
When Mailwasher is open, as far as I know this doesn't happen. As mentoned above I have a nuisance email (to me) once a week and I want to see all that is to be seen about it. The reason I sometimes by-pass MW.
I hope this explains a little better, if not, I will have another go. Wink

Ikeb · Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:23 am Post subject:

B9 is intended to clean messages accepted by MWP. It's purpose is not to track the history of email msgs. Sure, that may be a side benefit (once FireTrust sorts out the B9 msg log) but msgs deleted by MWP won't be tracked by B9, MWP does that.

wandrinstar · Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:47 am Post subject:

Perhaps "history" is the wrong word to use. I meant expose the sh1t in them, telling us all about the email and it's contents. As b9 does.

Ikeb · Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 10:28 am Post subject:

OK, I can see what you are looking for. But B9 isn't geared to decipher all the crap in SPAM. I suppose you could set up B9 to preprocess MWP msgs but why bother? MWP has it's own logs to tell you why particular msgs were deleted. Besides, B9 changes the msg, which changes it's signature, so reporting SPAM to FA! would not be helpful.


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