Blacklist/auto

Byron · Corporal Joined: Jan 27, 2004 Posts: 51 Location: USA

Since my spam has increased to 27 out of 30 is spam I set my blacklist to auto delete

In this mode it doesn't bounce even if Bounced is ticked

This is MW pro 4

Byron

Ikeb · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject:

Be thankful for small miracles. Bouncing SPAM is a bad idea. Search for "bounce" to find out why.

Byron · Corporal Joined: Jan 27, 2004 Posts: 51 Location: USA

Ikeb

Here's my spam fighting history

I started with IE's 14 step/spam method of reporting
spam

I went thru deleting over 480 spams per day at my server. BECAUSE JUST DELETEING IS THE BEST WAY

I found MW and with bouncing my spam went from 480 per day to FOUR you can count that on one hand. One, two, three, four.

You show one and only one person affected by bounced e-mail. The US Gov in health and food issues don't give a crap at less than 3% of the population.

Show me several thousand affected by bounced mail by MW and I might change my methods.

My question remains unanswered

Byron

Ikeb · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:26 am Post subject:

Byron · Corporal Joined: Jan 27, 2004 Posts: 51 Location: USA

In MW Pro 4.0

Blacklist options

tick Auto Delete
tick Auto Bounce

Tick Automaticaly

The status "Mail Log" shows that these are not being bounced

Why?

Byron

stapel · Trooper Joined: Apr 23, 2004 Posts: 19 Location: USA

Byron: Since spammers do not provide genuine e-mail addresses in the "From:" or "Reply-to:" fields, your "Bounce" message goes to the person owning the domain being faked. So when one of my domain names is being used to send out thousands of spam messages, bouncing means that I, not the spammer, have to deal with hundreds of replies to messages I never sent. Since spammers do not provide genuine addresses, bounced messages only hurt third-party domain-name owners and needlessly increase server loads for all of us. As much fun as it is to "Bounce", and as much as we'd like to think it gets our names off spam lists, all it does is hurt the domain owners... again.

Just my $0.02.

Eliz.

stan_qaz · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject:

I report every bounce I get to my domains to the abuse address of the idiot that sent me the spam and virus laden junk.

The neat thing is that unlike a virus that takes over your computer- bouncing is a deliberate action and is cause for termination of an account.

I may not be able to get to a spammer hiding in China busomeone on a US ISP that is intenionally sending virus and spam e-mails is a much easier to fry kettle of fish.

If you would care to verify the return address of your unwanted mail before bouncing then feel free to bounce away. My load today of 300 plus spams had 50 that weren't blacklisted by spamcop and of these 3 unforged addresses in it. That means that 1% of any bounces I did would do any good.

The error many see in bouncing's effectveness is that they do several things to their mail procesesing and give all the credit to the bouncing and ignore all the other things that have changed.

stapel · Trooper Joined: Apr 23, 2004 Posts: 19 Location: USA

Stan_qaz: Since the domain names listed in the "From:" and "Reply-to:" fields of spam messages are faked and are not the sources of the spams, do I assume correctly that you do a reverse look-up on the (apparent) originating IP addresses to find the server hosts through which the messages were generated?

Thank you.

Eliz.


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