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Billbo
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject: MW displays bottom of list, rather than top |
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When I open MW Pro (same with all versions used thus far, including 4.1), MW loads the mail and then leaves the display down near the bottom of the list--never the top (where I want it) and never the absolute bottom. So I always have to scroll up to see new mail. Is there a way to modify this? |
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rogerw
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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The mailgrid display is sortable on most columns.
Try clicking on the column headers for 'arrived' (if you display that column) or 'sent' (less accurate, as spammers fudge the 'sent' tiime).
The first click will sort the column in one order (either ascending or decending). A second click will toggle the ascending/descending selection. |
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Billbo
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I understand sorting by columns and I do keep mine sorted by Sent date. No matter which column I sort by, however, shouldn't the initial display show whatever message is at the top of the sort? Seems like I shouldn't have to scroll up to see it. |
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rogerw
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Billbo wrote: |
shouldn't the initial display show whatever message is at the top of the sort? |
If by 'initial' you mean when MW first starts - then you need to make sure that whatever sort/column you desire normally is 'active' when you (manually) close MW. If you leave MW open when you shut down windows, some settings are not permanently recorded in the registry.
As for showing the 'top' of the sort - not quite. MW will endeavor to keep whatever entry in the mailgrid that was selected/highlighted before new mail was fetched somewhere in the visible portion of the mailgrid after new mail is fecthed. If that means that new mail is off of the top (or bottom) of the grid, well, that is just the way it works.
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Billbo
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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>If by 'initial' you mean when MW first starts - then you need to make sure that whatever sort/column you desire normally is 'active' when you (manually) close MW. If you leave MW open when you shut down windows, some settings are not permanently recorded in the registry. <
I almost never change the sort/column and I very seldom restart the computer. And, actually, the sort remains intact when I restart MW. I just don't see the top of the list.
>As for showing the 'top' of the sort - not quite. MW will endeavor to keep whatever entry in the mailgrid that was selected/highlighted before new mail was fetched somewhere in the visible portion of the mailgrid after new mail is fecthed. If that means that new mail is off of the top (or bottom) of the grid, well, that is just the way it works.<
I don't think this applies to my particular problem. I seldom deal with (highlight) messages down the list. I am usually viewing messages at or near the top.
I check 6 accounts and I leave mail on the servers for anywhere from 3 to 7 days, so right now I have 80 messages in the grid. If I exit MW and restart the application, then the grid will typically display something like messages 35 through 75, and typically one of the lower items (like #69 or 70) will be highlighted. This is not consistent every time. I just tried it and the 11th message was highlighted and I did not need to scroll up to see the top items, but this occasion seems the exception.
Any other ideas? |
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rogerw
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Billbo wrote: |
I seldom deal with (highlight) messages down the list. I am usually viewing messages at or near the top. |
There is always an email highlighted/selected in the grid (and previewed, if you have a preview pane displayed by default - which I ususally don't). This will either be the last one you viewed/selected (if the mailgrid wasn't empty when you fetched new mail) - or the first email fetched (if the mailgrid was empty when you fetched new mail).
Whichever one is highlighed seems to stay in the viewable portion of the mailgrid while everything else is fetched.
So - if your mail server(s) deliver the older mail first - then it would seem that the older mail will be 'favored' in the MW display. If your mail server(s) deliver the newer mail first, the newer mail will be favored.
I've been playing with this on the several servers I use - and I find that one server delivers the newest mail first - and all the others deliver the oldest first. Since I sort on 'arrived' date, whether I get the top of the list or the end of the list showing in MW after mail is fetched depends upon which server I access first.
Now, if you find that one of your servers delivers the mail in the order you prefer, it seems that you can force it to be looked at first by making the 'account name' in MW occur first alphabetically in the list of accounts. (This seems to be what we call an 'artifact' - and not a documented feature of the program, so it might change if the programmers change something.) For this to work you'll also need to make sure that sequential access is set (Tools>Options>Connections then select the 'sequential access' radio button). If simulaneous access is set, all the servers are interrogated at the same time - and whichever one responds more rapidly will determine which email is first to be put in the grid.
I don't think you're gonna get much more control than that!
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Billbo
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Brilliant! Now I know why you get paid big money to be on this forum. I've always wondered why anyone would want to access accounts sequentially. Now I know. |
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rogerw
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Billbo wrote: |
I've always wondered why anyone would want to access accounts sequentially. Now I know. |
Actually, the reason for the sequential acces is quite different: Mail servers, to protect themselves from being flooded by trojan-ridden machines that mass mail spam, are often set to disallow more than one connection from a paticular IP at once. For people who have several accounts on the same mail server, simultaneous access to such a server causes abrupt disconnections and/or hangs. To accomodate these servers, MW has a sequential access mode. (Email clients generally access serially - hence there's not usually a problem. MW started with simultaneous access to try to speed things up - but it causes problems sometimes.)
It's just happenstance that the mode will also allow you a bit of conrol over the situation you want to deal with.
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