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Editing & Deleting a post
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Allowing people to edit & delete their own posts is:
A good thing
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A necessary evil
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
A bad thing
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 27%  [ 3 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:11 pm    Post subject: Editing & Deleting a post
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This is sort of to the Moderators & Admins, although I welcome any feedback and opinions.

Do you find that allowing people to edit, or even delete their posts, messes up the flow of the threads? If I make a post which causes 10 responses, then I go back and change the wording of my original post (or even delete it), wouldn't that confuse quite a few people who might be reading the thread for the first time?

Someone might point it out down the line that the original content was altered, but for someone reading the thread for the first time might not realize that there was a change until reading the whole thread.

Just curious. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:50 pm    Post subject:
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I find that curious too and am actually thinking of implementing a trick or two coming down the line.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:04 am    Post subject:
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What kind of trick?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:04 am    Post subject:
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I see no problem with the edit capability as it stands (i.e. there is an indication how many times a message has been edited if the message just edited is not the last one in the topic.)

Currently a message can only be deleted if it is the last message in a topic, so again there's no problem if someone just posting a reply (or a new topic?) has a change of heart. Besides it allows one to remove the confusing double, triple, etc posts that sometimes occur, typically because the site seems to freeze when busy and that precious post doesn't seem to be getting posted, so let's try that "Submit" button again .... Rolling Eyes I just wish every forum allowed message deletion.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject:
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I don't have a problem with the edit function but I feel that the delete option shouldn't happen apart from as Ikeb states above. (double posts, etc)

Everyone has the option to preview their post so the deleting can be done then but lets keep the flow of things consistant and easy to follow.

cheers........

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:54 am    Post subject:
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.........but lets keep the flow of things consistant and easy to follow.

That is somewhat the point though. What if I decided to go alter the very first post in this thread so that it said something totally different? The flow of things would be far from consistent.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject:
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I take your point HogCall, but is that happening enough to really cause a concern. ??

As it is, most people making a security enquiry very rarely would need to make changes as if their post didn't make sense then there would be another post asking them to explain a little more or get a Hijack Log etc.

Its only the posts, like down in the tavern, where a edit could make the posts seem inconsistant but then this is a security site not a general chat.

Does the numbers of changes being made warrent any concern??

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:46 pm    Post subject:
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How's this?

http://computercops.biz/postp68842.html#68842

Check the first post.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject:
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point taken, Paul.

Wash my mouth out with soap and take a steelo soap pad to my tongue.

delete, I say, delete!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject:
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I agree with deleting your own post, if it is still the last one on the thread, and no one else has replied to it yet. The problem is you don't know if somebody else has just read your post and has composed a reply that will be posted just after you remove yours.

I believe editing a post should NOT be allowed, since I think it would sometimes invalidate the meaning of posts immediately after the edited one. This might have the unintended consequence of making other posters look foolish, which would reduce participation in the forums.

I notice that all forums on this site consist of linear threads, which is probably easier for the web designers to implement, but I wish the posts were in the form of nested replies, like on the regular newsgroups. It would make it easier for other readers to skip over entire sections of a thread that have wandered off topic. It would also make it easier to see what is being replied to when posters forget to use the Quote feature correctly.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject:
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That's something I would be open to, nested threads. Not something I can implement in the near term however.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject:
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I believe allowing people to delete their own post would be a bad thing as TallBill says,
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The problem is you don't know if somebody else has just read your post and has composed a reply that will be posted just after you remove yours.
Allowing them to edit just for spelling would be fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:44 am    Post subject:
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iguanilla wrote:
I believe allowing people to delete their own post would be a bad thing as TallBill says,
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The problem is you don't know if somebody else has just read your post and has composed a reply that will be posted just after you remove yours.
Allowing them to edit just for spelling would be fine.


what i found was that i should have quoted someone when they made a posting so that there would be no confusion about what the response was about, and i did not use the quote function and they went back and edited their entry and covered their six o'clock by making changes.
if i had used the quote function then the quote would have been locked in and no matter how much they wanted to change their entry, there would have been a record.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:09 am    Post subject:
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Hi TMOV,

It seems like a good idea to quote a posting before replying to it. I never thought of that. Otherwise you might be replying to something totally different. What a waste! Would it be a good idea to quote every post one replies to?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:45 am    Post subject:
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iguanilla wrote:
Hi TMOV,

It seems like a good idea to quote a posting before replying to it. I never thought of that. Otherwise you might be replying to something totally different. What a waste! Would it be a good idea to quote every post one replies to?


well, there was something going on that caused a lot of consternation with those involved in resolving it at the moment, but if you feel that it is some thing important just use the quote function.
then anyone that reads your posting knows what's up when they read it.
any way"little iguana" i hope you have been welcomed to this marvelous site, i welcome you,keep posting! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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